Auto loan

Who do they pull? Auto Brands and the Credit Bureaus they Use…

Many auto finance companies’ choice of credit bureau varies based on what region of the U.S. you are in.  Overall, though, this is who I have found the following car-makers’ captive finance companies credit bureau of choice:

Mercedes-Benz:  TransUnion
BMW:  Equifax
Lexus:  Experian
Audi:  TransUnion
Volkswagen:  TransUnion (Audi and VW are one in the same)
Jeep (Chrysler):  Experian
Toyota:  Experian
Nissan:  Equifax
Honda:  Equifax or Experian
Ford:  Equifax
Mazda:  Equifax
Hyundai:  Experian
Kia:  Experian

Remember:  the above is for the captive lender only! (VW Financial Services, BMW FInancial, etc.)  If you go to a dealership and apply for credit, they will likely pull all three and send your application to several banks who may choose to pull any or all three credit reports themselves.

My Thoughts on Applying for a Car Loan

So you are in the market for a new car.  You think you know your credit score but in all likelihood you do not because there is nowhere you as a consumer can access your auto-enhanced score with any of the bureaus.  An auto loan is an installment loan and the auto-enhanced score weights more heavily your installment loan history. Have you had an auto loan in the past? Was it paid satisfactorily?  Mortgages and student loans are also installment loans, as are personal loans (though these are much less common).  If you have not had any installment loan history, more than likely your auto-enhanced score will be lower than the FICO score you can purchase online.

I became friends with a Finance Manager at a Lexus dealership who gave me a few “suggestions” when it came to completing the application. When it asks you how long you have lived at your current residence, he said to always put at least 3 1/2 years.  When asked how long you had been employed at your current job, always put at least 2 years.  This information is rarely if ever verified but he said it often was considered in reviewing applications.  Unlike a house, a car is a piece of property that can be moved around even though it is liened – thus, the bank likes to see that you have lived at the same place for a while, worked at the same job – that you are stable and not going to disappear in a few months. 

When you go to an auto dealership and apply for financing there, be prepared for them to “shop” your loan – meaning, they will send your credit application to the captive lender and two or three other banks.  (The captive lender is, for example, VW Credit Services if you are at VW.)  The dealership will pull your credit, then each of the lenders they send your loan to will pull it as well, so you will end up with a bunch of inquiries that WILL count as hard inquiries, regardless of what the salesman may tell you.  I can tell you based on just a few pieces of information whether or not you will get approved – if you are not confident, you should consider running it by someone who knows first and save yourself time.  If you have defaulted student loans, no auto loan history, and a score in the mid-500s, you are not going to get approved at a dealership – well, not without 50% down, and even then it is not guaranteed. 

My best score is with Transunion, so when my Transunion score soared above 720, I applied online with VW Financial Services, as I knew they would only pull Transunion.  As expected, I was approved immediately and referred to my local VW dealership.  I went in the next day and basically just had to pick out a car.  My credit was not pulled again and the financing was not an issue.  I was approved for a lease with a low interest rate and nothing down.  Had VW pulled Equifax, things would have been very different. 

I personally believe the best thing for your credit when it comes to an auto loan appearing on your credit is for it to be with the captive lender. If it isn’t, it just looks bad.  The captive lender is where you get the lowest interest rates, the cash back, etc.  If you can’t get in with them but you are a member of a credit union, I would suggest applying with your credit union before you even go to the dealership.  Credit unions also offer great interest rates and if you get approved, you will go to the dealership in a stronger position, as you won’t need financing from them at all. 

Even if you don’t know your auto-enhanced score, having a general idea of what is on your credit file before you go car shopping is a good idea.  If you have a low credit score, especially due to recent missed payments or delinquencies, you should know what you will be faced with.  Without excellent credit, it is highly unlikely you will be approved for a lease.  My Jetta had a sticker price of about $30,000 – and my lease payment is $414 per month.  If I had financed the car for five years at 10% interest, the payment would be $637 per month; at 20% interest, it would be nearly $800 per month.  It is not uncommon for dealerships to use lenders charging exorbitant interest rates of 25% or higher for people with compromised credit.  Additionally, at an interest rate of 20%, to get that payment down to what my payment is, you would have to put about $13,000 down – almost half.  Now, if you are in a position to do so, you will have equity in your vehicle and be able to pay it off more quickly.  If not, though, you may be unable to get the car you want because the monthly payment is too high based on your income.

And finally, with regard to applying for an auto loan, apply for a car you can easily afford the payments.  Make your monthly payments on time and you will find your car buying experience in the future to be simple and easy – and you will save a fortune each month not paying outrageous interest.  I can’t imagine paying $800 a month for my car, but $414 is just fine.

 

Judge Me For Saving Money

My first post was about my experience being terminated for the first time by my employer.  When I was called into the conference room to meet with my supervisor and the firm’s Executive Director, one of the first things raised as an “issue” was my personal use of a rental car obtained through the firm.  To make a couple things clear: (1) the cost of the rental car was not being paid by the firm – it was charged to my personal account that I was responsible for paying, (2) when I expressed interest in renting a car, I was directed to an individual in the accounting department who handled car rentals – she made my rental car reservation and assured me I was following procedure and that this was permitted; (3) I was able to get an excellent monthly rate due to the firm’s volume of business.

I started my job one month before I started my credit repair. It was challenging getting rides to work and coordinating schedules with other people when I was working two jobs myself.  I knew I needed to buy a car; I also knew with a  494 credit score, no finance company was going to give me a loan and if, by chance, I was able to secure financing, it would require a huge down payment with the remaining amount financed at an outrageous interest rate.  It was pointless to even look at cars at that point – all that would come out of it would be disappointment and a bunch of inquiries hitting my credit reports.  I knew, though, that if I could get a few things cleaned up on my credit reports and get my score up, I could get an auto loan.  It was just going to take me a little time to do so.

They looked at me like I was shady and up to something when they asked me about the rental car.  ‘Why would you rent a car for a month?’ they asked.  Well, I needed to get a couple things cleared up on my credit files to get financing – I did not have $5,000 to spend on a down payment at the moment nor did I want a loan at 26% interest.  Today, one of my former co-workers told me that people “talked” about me renting a car – again, as if I was doing something sketchy.

Let’s say I chose not to be “sketchy” and wanted to buy a car that was $20,000.  Assuming I got lucky and only had to put down $5,000 (25%), I would be financing $15,000.  The best I could expect would be 48 months on the loan.  At an interest rate of 21%, my monthly payment would be $470.  And remember, that was with $5,000 down.

Well, because I was shady and rented a car for a month (which cost $675 by the way), I was able to get my credit score up.  I applied with VW Financial Services for a new Jetta.  I was approved for a fully-loaded TDI with a sticker price of just under $30,000 with $0 down.  My monthly payment is $414 per month and to a lender who will benefit me credit-wise both short- and long-term.  Renting a car and being patient cost me $675 out of pocket and I got a brand new car – a car $10,000 more than the other scenario.  And I saved myself $5,000 cash and almost $60 per month for 48 months – almost $3,000 there too.

So judge me all you want.